【键盘侠】猛龙高管公开质疑安东尼

Toronto Raptors announcer on Anthony Davis: if you're a franchise player, to say there's not enough talent on thisteam to get an 8 seed, I'm just not buying it .

猛龙讲话人谈安东尼-戴维斯：“假如你是球队的门面球员，然后你说身旁没有足够先天让你率领球队打到八号种子，这我是底子不会买账的。—————————

[–]WarriorsAngrilyUnderstand 3771 points 1day ago

He's right. Tell me he's not right.

AD and Jrue alone should carry anyhalfway-decent supporting cast to an eighth seed.

勇士球迷：他是对的，请告知我他不合错误的来由。

安东尼-戴维斯和朱-霍乐迪应当能带着任何半吊子球员杀进八强吧。

[–][OKC] Andre Robersontoshredsyousay1 878points 1 day ago

They had an elite offense but their defensewas horrific if I recall correctly.

雷霆球迷：假如我回想没错的话，他们有着精英级此外进攻可是戍守的确恐怖。

[–]Knicks Tankwagonzetiano 1318 points 23hours ago

How does a team with AD and Jrue who areconsidered top 10, maybe top 5 defenders in the league be that horrificdefensively?

尼克斯球迷：为何一支有安东尼-戴维斯和朱-霍乐迪如许的同盟前10、多是同盟前五的球员为何戍守打得这么烂啊？

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[–][MIA] LeBron JamesKashmir33 731 points23 hours ago

Look at the numbers when they are playing.Those are absolutely fantastic. The problem is when at least of them is off thecourt.

热火球迷：看看他们两个并肩作战时的数据，现实上仍是不错的，问题是他们两个最少有一个不在场上时很恐怖。

[–]76ersflydales 426 points 14 hours ago

Get Thibs and their off the court minutesstop being a problem.

76人球迷：那弄来锡伯杜啊，如许他们两个最少有一个不在场上的问题就可以水到渠成。

[–]GameDesignerDude 428 points 23 hours ago

Injuries and their bench is the problem.Not AD and Jrue.

Posted this in the other thread about AD,but still relevant here:

AD, Jrue, and Randle are the only Pelicansplayers this year with a positive +/- on the season. The Bucks have 8 playerswith positive +/- this season.

Also, Mirotic missed 24 games with injuriesbefore moving to the Bucks. Payton has only played 27 games this season.

The Pelicans aren't a good team. Not surewhere that narrative came from. Jrue, Randle, and AD are good. Everyone else ismediocre to bad and/or injured all the time. People comparing them to the Bucksare really just focusing on the star players, not the rest of the team.

曾在此外帖子里说过这个结论，可是在这个帖子里我仍然可以这么说：

安东尼-戴维斯、朱-霍乐迪和兰德尔是鹈鹕所有球员中独一有正正负值的人，作为类比，雄鹿有8个。

一样米罗蒂奇在去雄鹿之前错过了24场角逐，佩顿这个赛季就打了27场角逐。

鹈鹕不是一支好球队，可是我不知道为何这类谈吐从哪里来的，安东尼-戴维斯、朱-霍乐迪和兰德尔很棒，其他人要末很烂要末一只受伤，人们将他们和雄鹿一路比力不外是留意了他们的明星球员而已，但他们底子没有存眷球队其他成员啊。

[–]IcyAuthor1 175 points 23 hours ago

I guess you need a team to win games. Whowould have thought.

我猜你需要一支球队去赢角逐吧，谁和我想的一样啊？

[–]Bullsbenjammin9292 70 points 22 hoursago

But LeBron took the Cavs to theFinals!

Yeah and look at him in the West. Differentconference, entirely different beast. Top 3 player of all time but you can'tjust will yourself to the playoffs in the West.

公牛球迷：

“可是詹姆斯能率领骑士杀进总决赛！”

是的，可是看看他在西部的成果吧——纷歧样的同盟，成果完全分歧 ，史上前三的球员可是你也不克不及一人将球队带进季后赛啊。

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[–]RaptorsKluey 184 points 1 day ago

And he wants to join the Lakers?

猛龙球迷：然后他也想插手湖人？

[–]HawksTraeYoung 105 points 23 hours ago

lakers were top 5 defensively until lonzogot injured right?

老鹰球迷：湖人在朗佐受伤之前都是同盟前五的戍守球队吧？

[–]Rocketscronidollars 58 points 17 hoursago

When Eric Gordon and Ryan Anderson were onthe pelicans ADs team was trash but when they were on the rocketshardens team was stacked lol.

火箭球迷：当埃里克-戈登和莱恩-安德森在鹈鹕的时辰只能被称之为垃圾，可是当他们在火箭，在哈登的带领下却爆发了哈哈哈。

[–]sriracha82 134 points 1 day ago

I feel like we’ve recently entered a timewhere leaders are excused for anything as long as their stats are good. “Can’tblame them look at the numbers they put up.” No one watches the game. AD had somany games early this year where the Pelicans would be close and need a boostand he would passively float around for a quarter. I remember a game where theywere tied and he didn’t shoot for the entire 3rd quarter....they lost narrowlyin the 4th. He got 28/10 or whatever though.

我感觉我们比来堕入了一个误区，那就是当球员们数据好的时辰，那些人总能找到捏词为本身推诿。“看看他们的数据吧，你还甚么好怪他们的呢？”仿佛没人看角逐啊，安东尼-戴维斯本赛季很多多少场角逐都是前面阐扬超卓，可是在鹈鹕被逼近比分而且需要支援的时辰他就显得有些隐身了，我还记得有场角逐他们一向焦灼，可是他第三节几近都没有出手过……最后第四节他们输了分数特殊少，他获得了28+10的数据。

[–]crawlingchip 57 points 23 hours ago

It's not a new thing. We were havingexactly the same discussion about Kevin Garnett 15 years ago when KG wasPutting up big numbers with ridiculous efficiency stats and yet the Wolvesdidn't have much success. Many concluded KG was just an empty stats stuffer whodidn't really make an impact. That narrative changed fast soon after.

这不是一个希奇的工作，我还记得十五年前加内特拿到鲜明且效力奇高的数据且丛林狼没有太多成功的时辰人们也会商过这个话题，良多人感觉加内特的数据没甚么用，底子起不到感化，然后他们就被啪啪啪打脸了。

[–]sriracha82 101 points 23 hours ago

But KG took that team to the WCF right? Hedidn’t win a chip or anything but it’s obvious he impacted his team.

AD impacts his team too duh but theyshould’ve been in the playoffs this year and he just checked out.

可是加内特把球队带进了西部决赛不是吗？他没博得总冠军，可是很较着他确切影响了他的球队。

安东尼-戴维斯确切影响他的球队，可是他们不该该季后赛都不进吧，并且他本身选择了独善其身。

[–]WeMissDime 16 points 23 hours ago

Don't think you can blame the front office.The team has undeniably brought in talent (Boogie, Mirotic, Rondo, Randle,Jrue, etc.) This team has 3 20 point scorers on it, maybe 4 with Okafor (he hada great little run when he was actually getting minutes). You can't tell methey're not good enough.

不要感觉你可以求全礼服组，他们一向在为球队带来先天(考辛斯、米罗蒂奇、隆多、兰德尔、霍乐迪之类的)，此刻球队有3个场均能得20分以上的得分手，假如加上奥卡福应当是四个(当他有时候的时辰打简直实很不错)，你不克不及说他们不敷优异。

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[–]RaptorsWasV3 787 points 1 day ago

They also talked about how a franchise 4/5is much harder to win with because you cant be as much of facilitator as theguard/wing types

猛龙球迷：我感觉还需要会商4、5号位球员铛铛家球员时是何等难赢角逐，由于你不克不及像后卫/先锋一样起到各类结果。

[–]Bullsjkure2 784 points 23 hours ago

If you put your ear to the ground, you canhear - feel - the rumbling of Philadelphians falling over themselves trying toget to their keyboards

公牛球迷：假如你把你的耳朵切近地面，你就可以感触感染到76人的键盘侠们正在蓄势待发。

[–]Spursbrandon_strandy 50 points 23 hoursago

Duncan, KG and Dirk did fine. If you getdouble every time in the post, at some point you just get have to better atpassing.

马刺球迷：邓肯、加内特和德克打得都不错啊，假如你每次在低位城市被包夹，那末某些时刻你不能不改进一下本身的传球吧。

[–]HornetsXhoquelin 52 points 23 hours ago

The thing is AD has never really attracteddoubles in the post because he can’t really score out of the low post againstproper big men.

黄蜂球迷：要害是AD在低位历来不会引发夹击啊，由于他在低位底子打不了那种吨位的年夜个子。

[–]RaptorsnotaRaptorfan 90 points 23 hoursago

In a totally different era of basketball.

猛龙球迷：此刻篮球时期纷歧样了啊。

[–]Spursbrandon_strandy 76 points 23 hoursago

lol so prime Dirk would struggle in thisera? I'm just struggling to find an excuse for AD.

马刺球迷：哈哈哈，所以巅峰德克会在这个时期堕入挣扎？我此刻很难为安东尼-戴维斯找到捏词啊。

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[–][WAS] Bradley BealScaryBullfrog 397points 1 day ago

I don't agree with that as ageneralization, but in the specific case of this Pelicans roster I definitelyagree

奇才球迷：我分歧意这个时期4号位5号位不克不及CARRY角逐的谈吐，可是对鹈鹕这个声势来讲我是赞成你的不雅点的。

[–]LakersJayveesac 183 points 1 day ago

I think a core of AD, Jrue, and Randle canbe an 8 seed in the West

湖人球迷：我感觉以安东尼-戴维斯、朱-霍乐迪和兰德尔为焦点的声势能在西部拿到东部第八。

[–]Celticslewlkewl 113 points 1 day ago

I mean the team has been plagued withinjuries through the years. Fully healthy they're probably a 7-8 seed in thewest.

我的意思是这支球队履历的伤病太多了，假如他们完全健康的话可能会在西部拿到7-8号种子吧。

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