亚博：老詹西游必需做好戍守| 常计划水留力季后赛?

Sooner or later Lebron is going to realize that not playing defense is an absolute death sentence in the West.

詹姆斯早晚会心识到的,在西部没有戍守绝对就等在死刑.

Most people can admit that Lebron has been a pretty bad defender on an already terrible lakers defensive team. Essentially a continuation of last regular season.

年夜部门人都感觉,在湖人这么一支本就戍守能力低劣的球队里,詹姆斯这个赛季的戍守是很糟的,这也是他上赛季常规赛里戍守状况的一种延续.

For the last couple of years , Lebron ’s strategy of playing situational defense when he feels like it has worked during the regular season simply because of the lack of offensive firepower in the east.

曩昔几个赛季,勒布朗在常规赛中之所以在感觉有需要时才采纳看环境戍守的策略,仅仅由于东部的进攻火力相对匮乏.

Sooner or later he ’s going to have to accept the fact that when you ’re playing guys like AD , KD , Steph , Harden , and Lillard routinely , this strategy is death.

他现在早晚要接管的事实是,那时平常要面临安东尼-戴维斯、杜兰特、库里、哈登和利拉德这些人时,那种策略就是自寻绝路末路.

I get that he ’s 33 , but come on now , he can at least put a little bit more effort in.

我知道他都33 了,可是奉求啊,他最少可以再多出一点力吧.

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[–]Lakers assistanmanager 6194 points 11 hours ago

It ’s almost like defense is half the game and should be taken seriously

湖人球迷：戍守几近是角逐的一半内容了,应当严厉看待啊.

[–]Whatisthefaceofmine [S ] 2503 points 11 hours ago

That ’s a hot take

瞧你这话说得.

[–]Lakers assistanmanager 900 points 11 hours ago

It was hard for me to say that out loud but it needed to be said

湖人球迷：说出这话我也很难堪,可是总得有人启齿啊.

[–]76ers choose_uh_username 374 points 11 hours ago

Thank you for being so brave

76 人球迷：感谢你这么英勇咯.

[–]Lakers Aleksso 106 points 10 hours ago

I wont be silent , did not see defense live on tv srry

湖人球迷：我不会缄默地,欠好意思,我在电视上就是看不到我们的戍守.

[–]Bucks Tarmannator 30 points 10 hours ago

Tbh it 's not 500% of the game. Defense isn 't as valuable as offense.

雄鹿球迷：说真话啊,戍守其实不是角逐内容的一半.戍守可没有进攻那末主要.

[–]Lakers Not_Frank_Ocean 78 points 9 hours ago *

I would probably correct this to say that inpidual defensive skill isn 't as valuable as inpidual offensive skill. It 's literally untrue to say that defense isn 't as valuable as offense- points scored by your team and points allowed by your team are by definition equal.

湖人球迷：我感觉这么说也许更适合些：小我的戍守技能没有小我的进攻技能那末主要.单说戍守没有进攻那末主要是不合错误的,究竟你球队的得分和敌手让你们获得的分数从界说上来看是同等的.

[–]Warriors gogorath 125 points 9 hours ago

On a team level , defense is exactly as valuable as offense.

What I think you are trying to say is that the best offensive players can generally bring more value to their team than the best defensive players.

That 's because you can choose where the ball goes on offense.

勇士球迷：从球队层面来看,戍守必定是和进攻划一主要的.

我感觉你们想表达的是,最好的进攻型球员为球队带来的价值比最好的戍守球员所进献的要年夜.这是由于你们是从皮球是由进攻倡议这个角度来看的.

[–]NBA Maverickman1313 17 points 9 hours ago

I thought defense wins championships. Least according to Kobe and the 08 Celtics. I kind of agree. lel

我感觉戍守才能博得总冠军.最少看看08 年的科比和凯尔特人吧.我是有点赞成的.

[–]Knicks Tankswagontrogdor1308 224 points 11 hours ago

It 's actually more like 300% of the game. Offenses are so tough to guard today that even the best players and team defenses can only do so much. The offense player has much more control over whether a possession will be successful then the defensive player so if you had to conserve energy for one end of the court definitely makes sense to go easier on D

尼克斯球迷：戍守现实上只能占角逐年夜约300%的内容.现在的进攻是很难戍守的,即使是最好的球员和球队所能做的戍守也是有限的.一个回合的进攻可否成功,进攻队员比戍守球员要有年夜很多的决议权,所以假如你不能不为了积储能量而在攻防两头做出选择的话,那较着是在戍守时蓄力要轻易些.

[–]Wizards happyflappypancakes 54 points 10 hours ago

Especially right now. The offensive explosions this season are insane. I 'm surprised when I don 't see a game go to 120 + points.

奇才球迷：特殊是现在这个时期.这个赛季同盟的这些球队在进攻真个爆发实在疯狂.如果我没看到哪场角逐呈现120 +的得分,那就真奇了怪了.

[–]Lakers BjornIngi21 93 points 11 hours ago

I ’ve seen this a lot of times on here and I just don ’t understand it.

If you look at the pattern of all the best teams in the NBA you ’ll see that all of them are great defensively. Like the Warriors , Rockets (last year ), Jazz and so on.

湖人球迷：这类论调我在这个专区看过很多多少次了,真的不睬解啊.

你看看同盟里所有的顶尖球队的成功模式,你就会发现他们的戍守全都是很强的,就比如勇士、火箭(上赛季)和爵士等等.

[–]Rockets DustyShot 144 points 10 hours ago

In an average year , a team 5th in offense and 20th in defense with do better than a team 20th in offense and 5th in defense. There 's just more spread in ORTG than DRTG usually. The jazz last year are a notable exception though.

As well , the best teams always can do both (to some extent ). That 's just obvious. But when you 're in the middle of the pack and have tough trade-offs , then you gotta make a choice sometimes.

火箭球迷：在一个平常赛季,一支进攻端排名第5 、戍守端第20 的球队会比,那种进攻端排第20 位戍守端排第五位的球队表示更好.凡是来看,进攻效力值比戍守效力值更能申明问题.不外上赛季的爵士倒是个显著的特例.

虽然说如斯,那些顶尖球队(在某种水平上)总能在攻防两头统筹,这是很较着的.不外当你的球队处在中心档次,并且买卖环境不甚抱负时,那你有时辰就必需要在攻防之间做出弃取了.

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[–][DEN ] Nikola Jokic Demb1 479 points 11 hours ago

I mean we played no defence last year and had one of the best offences and guess how far that took us...

约基奇球迷：上赛季我们掘金就是没戍守的,进攻能力却是同盟前列,可以你看看我们走了多远……

[–][HOU ] Clint Capela JagMaster9000 231 points 8 hours ago

The cavs has the 29th defense and went to the finals , Jokic is not LeBron

卡佩拉球迷：可是骑士上赛季戍守同盟第29 ,仍然进了决赛啊,掘金首要怪在约基奇不是勒布朗.

[–][TOR ] DeMar DeRozan MosKweli 70 points 8 hours ago

The Cavs also came out of the East where Lebron feasted on because nobody plays defence. He ’s in the west now , guaranteed to not make the finals this year if he keeps slacking on defence the way he always does.

猛龙球迷：骑士上赛季能在詹姆斯可以轻松顽耍的东部杀出重围,那是由于东部没有球队正视戍守.此刻他到了西部了,假如他仍是照样在戍守端玩票,那这个赛季还想进总决赛是别想了.

[–]yepyoubet 230 points 8 hours ago

He was guaranteed to not make the Finals the instant he signed with the Lakers.

他从签约湖人的那一刻起,就已没法进入总决赛了.

[–]NamesMace 61 points 8 hours ago

Lmao yeah when was the finals ever realistic ? He ’s on a long term deal bc they are trying to build something not win now

哈哈哈,没错,詹姆斯加盟湖人后,进入季后赛的方针啥时辰合适现实了？他签下了一份长约啊,由于湖人筹算牺牲此刻为将来打好根本.

[–][CLE ] Kevin Love quentin-coldwater 35 points 6 hours ago

because nobody plays defence

lol what ? The Celtics , Raptors , and Sixers were 3 of the top 5 NBA defenses last year.

凯文-乐福球迷：之前那哥们儿说"东部没有球队正视戍守".

呵呵呵,张嘴就来？凯尔特人、猛龙和76 人可是上赛季同盟戍守表示前五的球队啊.

[–][LAC ] Moses Malone CornCobbKilla 22 points 6 hours ago

Lol Celtics were number 2 in defensive rating (103.1 pts allowed per game ) and raptors were number 5 (105.1 pts allowed ) for the 17/18 season. Stop it. Find a new angle

摩西-马龙球迷：哈哈哈,凯尔特人的戍守效力可是同盟第二(场均掉分103.1 )啊,并且猛龙是第五(场均掉分105.1 ).那哥们儿真是够了,要黑也玩点新颖的吧.

[–]Heat qwerty7990 1249 points 12 hours ago

Sooner or later people are going to realize a 33 year old with 15 seasons of experience can 't take over the game on offense and defense every night. He 's not so bad at defense that he would be a negative on a good defensive team. He 's still a good on ball defender.

热火球迷：大师早晚会心识到,一个已在同盟交战15 年的33 岁宿将,是没法每场角逐都统筹好进攻和戍守的.说甚么他在一支戍守不错的球队里拖后腿,他还不至在这么差好吗？他依然是个很优异的有球戍守人.

[–]Cavaliers Jjab430 22 points 12 hours ago

You underestimate how stupid the average basketball fan is

骑士球迷：你怕是小瞧了一般篮球迷的笨拙水平.

[–]Cavaliers OhEmGeeBasedGod 43 points 8 hours ago

Yeah , as someone who 's obviously watched a lot of LeBron as a Cavs fan , this is the main point. The reason we haven 't seen a dropoff ("LeDecline") in his offensive stats is because he has put 850% of his focus on that part of his game during the regular season. If he split his focus on both ends of the court , we 'd notice his offensive numbers starting to fall.

Even in the playoffs last year , when he gives more defensive effort , you 'd see him fading late in the games offensively because of the split focus. He 'd start taking more offensive possessions off to offset the defensive possessions he was now expending energy on.

骑士球迷：没错,作为一个看过詹姆斯很多角逐的骑士球迷,你说的年夜差不差.勒布朗这些年之所以在进攻真个表示没有较着下滑,那是由于他在常规赛中把850%的精神都用在了进攻上.假如他把精神分摊到攻防两头,那我们就会发现他的进攻数据最先降落.

哪怕是在上赛季的季后赛里,当他投入更多精神到戍守中以后,你就会看到在角逐最后阶段他的进攻乏力,由于精神被分离了.那样他会削减进攻回合的投入来抵消戍守真个耗损.

[–]Kings redwashing 153 points 9 hours ago *

Walton was supposed to limit both his minutes and role , and he has done neither of those things. He 's still playing heavy minutes leading the offense. We 've all seen at this point of his career he can 't do all this and play defense all game. I don 't really know what was expected.

国王球迷：沃顿本该限制詹姆斯的上场时候和场上脚色的,可是他一样也没做到.引领球队进攻的詹姆斯仍然有年夜量的进场时候,我们都能看到,到了今朝这个阶段,詹姆斯没法四平八稳,还得全场做好戍守.真不知道大师都在想啥.

[–]Knicks huntzy 38 points 6 hours ago

Even if Luke Walton is saying all the right things to Lebron , the chances of him listening are relatively slim IMO.

尼克斯球迷：即使沃顿跟詹姆斯交接了所有那些公道的放置,可是我感觉吧,詹姆斯真正听进去的可能性仍是微不足道的.

[–]Whatisthefaceofmine [S ] 182 points 12 hours ago *

There ’s a big difference between asking him to " take over the game" defensively and at least playing decent team defense. He doesn ’t fight through screens , frequently leaves deadly three point shooters open , and has terrible transition defense.

要求詹姆斯"接收角逐" 和最少打出点像样的戍守,这之间的区分仍是很年夜的.他在防保护时不会跟上去,常常给敌手留出致命三分空位,并且他的戍守轮转做得很差.

[–]MJxLeBron 307 points 11 hours ago

He absolutely fights through screens and switches. Plays solid man defense too. Dude has a defensive rating of 107.9 or something. That ’s the second lowest on the team. Javale McGee has the lowest. Scapegoating him is pretty lame

他防挡拆时绝对是跟上去了,并且也有轮转.他的戍守也是很靠得住的.他的戍守效力值差不多有107.9 啊,这是全队第二低的,最低的是麦基,让詹姆斯背锅也过分分了吧.

[–]thehumangenius23 183 points 11 hours ago

Dude , please leave it to the people that are actually watching him play every game this season over one suspect defensive metric. There ’s a reason Lakers fans are disappointed in Lebron ’s effort , and it ’s because we see how he ’s leaving a hole in our defense from game to game.

If he wants to inspire then maybe he should lead by example instead of shouting at everyone to cover his assignment.

老哥,麻烦让我们这些真恰是看了詹姆斯这个赛季每场角逐的人往返答好嘛.湖人球迷对詹姆斯在戍守真个尽力水平感应掉望不是无缘无故的,由于我们看获得,他每场角逐城市给我们的戍守中留下空当.

假如他真想为队友鼓劲儿,那就该以身作则,而不是高声喊队友去给他的掉位擦屁股.

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[–]Lakers TuneHD 42 points 10 hours ago

If we could have another real big or at least a suitable small ball 5 our defense would be a lot better. We have really nice defensive potential with Zo , Rondo , Hart , KCP , Ingram , Lance , and McGee

湖人球迷：如果我们能再来一个年夜个子,或最少有一套适合的小球声势,那就会好很多了.我们有鲍尔、隆多、哈特、英格拉姆、兰斯和麦基,我们的戍守潜力仍是很强的.

[–]24-Kobe-8 22 points 8 hours ago

Ayy we got tyson chandler now

哎,我们此刻有钱德勒了.

[–]Cavaliers Jjab430 1346 points 12 hours ago

Why is everyone scapegoating LeBron ? This sub is always shitting on casuals but the opinions on here pretty much mirror the dumb ass takes of casual fans. This place is so annoying now.

The Lakers aren 't shit defensively because of LeBron. In fact , their DRtg is 11 points better with him on the floor. They 're shit defensively because they have one fucking center and their backup is an undersized power forward on a 2 way contract

骑士球迷：为何每一个人都拿勒布朗当替罪羊呢？这个专区总是乱喷,真的烦人啊.

湖人戍守烂不是詹姆斯酿成的.事实上,有詹姆斯在场时,湖人的戍守效力值还低11 分.他们戍守烂是由于他们特么缺一个中锋,并且他们的替补中锋只是一个拿着双向合同的小号年夜先锋啊.

[–]BlackLukaDoncic 44 points 12 hours ago

The Lakers Drtg with LeBron on the floor is bottom ten in the league. He is not contributing to good defensive basketball. He 's just better than his replacements.

有詹姆斯在场时湖人的戍守效力值排在同盟倒数前十.他没有为球队的戍守出力,只是比本身的替补好点而已.

[–]Rockets BeerDrinkingWeather 113 points 11 hours ago

And is that down to one player or the other four that are on the court with him

This post is so dumb

火箭球迷：那这是应当怪某一个球员呢？仍是他在场上的别的四个队友呢？

这个帖子太蠢了.

[–][BOS ] Kevin Garnett celtics090 481 points 12 hours ago

Agreed. Imo , if lebron was a 20/8/5 type player (a line he could get in his sleep ), but was a Draymond type leader on D , they would be a much much better team. The reality is that he 's just not wired that way. Lebron is not the type to take a backseat offensively so that he can excel defensively , and he doesn 't have the stamina to consistently do both. It 's unfortunate , because despite the fact that I hate LA , and dont like Lebron , I can admit that hes an elite defender when engaged. The problem is that hes almost never engaged on that side anymore.

加内特球迷：赞成.在我看来,假如勒布朗是那种20/8/5 类型的球员,可是戍守端又是追梦那种魁首的话,那湖人会比此刻强很多.可事实并不是如斯.勒布朗不是那种进攻时留力然后戍守端英勇的球员,并且他没有那种体能去延续性地做好攻防.很不幸的是,我固然厌恶湖人,而且不喜好勒布朗,可是我认可,只要勒布朗愿意戍守,他就是顶尖的戍守人.问题是他此刻几近不怎样投入戍守了.

[–]MJxLeBron 28 points 11 hours ago

His defense has been pretty average. Lakers just need another backup big.

他现在的戍守已很通俗了.湖人就是需要一位替补年夜个.

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[–][DEN ] Jamal Murray illmatic23- 152 points 11 hours ago

How do you think he ’s still a top 3 player while all his peers are old trash ? He has to pace himself so he can be the best player in the nba in the playoffs like he was last year. It ’s not that complicated

掘金球迷：和勒布朗同龄的球员都是又老又水了,你凭啥感觉他依然是前三球员呢.他必需要调剂本身的节拍,如许才能在季后赛中像上赛季一样做回同盟最好.这没那末复杂.

[–]Jazz ChaseBank5 95 points 10 hours ago

Pacing himself in the west is totally different than when he was in the East. Lakers wont walk into the postseason like his Cavs team did each year.

爵士球迷：在西部调剂节拍可完全分歧在他曩昔在东部啊.湖人可不会像他之前的骑士那样每一年进季后赛.

[–]Pacers ImBmitch 104 points 10 hours ago

You act like he 's never played against west teams lmao

步行者球迷：说的像勒布朗历来没打过西部球队一样,哈哈哈

[–]eeeeeeethan 41 points 11 hours ago

LeBron hasn 't earned the unconditional love in LA. Lakers fans are happy he coming there but hey don 't love him like Kobe , so tend to be judgmental towards him. He really isn 't that bad in defense this season , better than his last season in Cavs , but criticized more , by their own fans

勒布朗并没有博得湖人球迷无前提的爱意.湖蜜对他的到来很高兴,可是他们没有像喜好科比那样喜好詹姆斯,所以对他的评判就会有成见.他这个赛季的戍守真的没有那末差,比上赛季在骑士是要强的.只不外这个赛季被自家球迷攻讦地更多了.

[–][LAL ] Kobe Bryant calculus119 41 points 10 hours ago

No basketball player will be loved by lakers fans like kobe is. It is simply impossible.

科比球迷：没有球员可以或许在湖蜜心中获得像科比一样的爱意.这是不成能的.

[–]eeeeeeethan 12 points 9 hours ago

LeBron in LA is a similar situation as KD in Warriors , they don 't love them like Kobe/Curry , in the past two years every time KD ISOs warrior fans are screaming against it.

詹姆斯在湖人的处境和杜兰特在勇士有点近似,球迷们都没有像喜好科比/库里那样喜好他们.曩昔两个赛季,每当杜兰特单打时,勇蜜城市冲他叫.

[–]Lakers LeShannonSharpe 14 points 9 hours ago

Lakers are a better defensive team with Lebron in the floor.

湖人球迷：有勒布朗在场时,其实湖人的戍守更好.

[–]IcyQuote007 63 points 11 hours ago

Lebron doesn 't want to play defense and quite frankly Lebron feels he can do whatever he wants.

I am one of those people that think Lebron doesn 't care about winning as much before. He would have joined Philly or many other teams before the Lakers if he did. The guy is probably looking to venture post-NBA career and other aspects in life.

勒布朗就是不想戍守,并且诚恳说,他感觉本身可以为所欲为了.

我就感觉他不在意是不是能获得和之前一样的成功了,究竟他之前本可以加盟费城或是其他良多球队.这老哥也许已最先着眼在退役以后的糊口了.

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