亚博：欧文总决赛表示惊人| 真实实力事实几何?

In 13 career finals games , Kyrie Irving is averaging 28ppg on near 50/40/90 shooting splits.

欧文职业生活生计一共打了13 场总决赛,场均获得28 分,投篮射中率接近50 +40 +90.

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[–][NYK ] Anthony MasonBlueHundred 296 points 20 hours ago

Kyrie is both very overrated and very underrated. Depends who you ask

尼克斯球迷：欧文在被高估得利害和被低估得利害之间往返游走,而这二者的谜底取决在你问谁.

[–]Trail BlazersCletus_Starfish 80 points 17 hours ago

I call this Kobe Bryant Syndrome .

开辟者球迷：我将其称为"科比综合症."

[–]Cavaliersvoyaging 12 points 10 hours ago

It really is very similar. Kobe stans think he 's a top 5 all-time player and then haters will say shit like he 's not even top 20.

骑士球迷：还真挺像,科比的信徒感觉他是NBA 汗青前五的球员,然后黑子们狂喷科比,就似乎科比底子进不了前20 一样.

[–]NBAtrustmeimaengineer 19 points 16 hours ago

I really don 't get this sentiment. This sub praises Kyrie 's basketball ability , we all know he 's great in the playoffs and the finals. The only shit I ever see Kyrie get is for being an idiot off of the basketball court.

我不知道这个帖子开设的目标在哪,这个帖子赞美了欧文的篮球先天,可是我们都知道欧文在季后赛和总决赛的能力贼强,我不喜好欧文的处所首要是在篮球场以外太蠢了.

[–][NYK ] Anthony MasonBlueHundred 16 points 16 hours ago

I see it this way. A lot of people rate him as a top 3 PG. And a lot say fringe top 10. Some say a top 10 player and some say otherwise. At least in my experience

尼克斯球迷：我是这么看的,良多人将他视为前三的控球后卫,也有良多人说他在控卫里排名前十摆布,有些人说他是同盟前十球员,可是也有些人说他不是,所以这个帖子就出来了.

[–][UTA ] Joe InglesNitroXYZ 522 points 23 hours ago

Yeah for all his faults you cant deny that Kyrie is always there to step up in the big moments.

爵士球迷：是的,虽然他有良多毛病,可是你不克不及否定欧文老是能在巨星时刻中有庞大晋升.

[–][BOS ] Jayson TatumIntergalacticWZRD [S ] 205 points 23 hours ago

Yeah , I know he ’s not everyone ’s cup of tea with his personality and some of the stuff he says. But I find it kinda ridiculous when people still say he ’s not good enough to be a top option on a contender. Offensively he ’s absolutely good enough to be the focal point of an offense.

凯尔特人球迷：是的,我知道由于他的个性和他说的某些话使得他不怎样遭人喜好,可是当人们说他不敷格成为总冠军竞争球队的头号选择时就有些荒诞了,在进攻端他绝对能成为球队的门面的.

[–]NeoBey 44 points 20 hours ago

People say that because he is always going to depend on a secondary play maker. He can ’t run an offense on his own , and his time in Cleveland , both with and without LeBron , has proved it.

Even when the Cavs were stacked , the team would routinely fall apart when LeBron took a breather and Kyrie was tasked with running things ,

If he ’s the #1 , it better be a really damn good team 2-8 if he ’s going to contend.

人们说这话的缘由是由于他的能力取决在第二持球手,他不克不及本身运转一个进攻系统,就在他在克利夫兰的那段时候里,在没有勒布朗和有勒布朗的时候段里都证实了这一点.

即便骑士声势齐备,球队也会在勒布朗喘气歇息、欧文运转进攻时江河日下.

假如他是第一选择而且预备追逐冠军的话,那支球队的第二到第八人都得足够优异.

[–]Celticsnot_Brendan 46 points 18 hours ago

Celtics are in a really good place to minimize that. We can easily have at least one of Gordon Hayward , Al Horford , or Marcus Smart out there for facilitating duties , and at least one of Terry Rozier , Jayson Tatum , or Gordon Hawyard for scoring playmaking duties.

凯尔特人球迷：凯尔特人在这方面能最小化欧文的劣势,我们可以很轻松得让海沃德、霍福德或斯马特此中的一个去履行功能性使命,或会让罗齐尔、塔图姆或海沃德承当持球得分的使命.

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[–][MIA ] Wayne EllingtonJewRepublican69 24 points 18 hours ago

Yeah it really is the LeBron effect.

In no way is Kyrie a bad playoff performer by any means. But his clutch playoff assassin !! reputation is overstated and a byproduct of literally one shot.

1 ) For his career in standard crunchtime settings in the playoffs Kyrie is a 280% shooter. Ive looked these stats up for many players that 280% figure is bottom level amongst stars this century. For ex CP3 scores at about 2X the rate that Kyrie does in such situations.

2 ) The privilege of playing with LeBron meant that people only focused on Kyrie 's good playoff moments and whenever he didn 't play well it got overlooked or if they lost all the blame went to LeBron

a ) The first 2 games of the 2016 and 2017 NBA Finals: Kyrie averages 20 PPG on 450% TS. Look at the history of teams down 2-0: their success rate isn 't much higher than being down 3-1 we just only remember the cases when teams come back from it (like in 2016 ). Ie sucking the first two games of the Finals matters.

b ) First two rounds of the 2017 NBA playoffs: 500% TS. But LeBron goes HAM those two series and the Cavs sweep so nobody says anything.

c ) In game 6 of the 2016 NBA Finals Kyrie was AWFUL the 2nd half. 1/7 for 3 points. The Cavs were doing all they could to have a 2015 Game 6 LAC vs HOU type collapse as a 24 point lead got cut to 8 early in the 4th. But LeBron goes king kong mode so nobody notices or cares about Kyrie.

d ) The first 4 games of the 2015 East Semis vs Chicago: Kyrie 18 PPG 360% FG. But LeBron hits a GW to prevent Cle from going down 3-1 and bails everybody out so NBD.

For perspective: Kyrie the playoff assassin stats in playoffs: 24/5/3 570% TS. James Harden the playoff choker !!: 28/7/5 570% TS while in Hou in the playoffs. Kyrie benefits from people just loving his style of play

热火球迷：

现实上这城市"勒有引力" 的成果.

虽然说欧文是一个欠好的季后赛阐扬者是没有事理的,可是他的"要害杀手" 称号较着是过誉了.

1. 从他的职业生活生计来看,季后赛他在要害时刻出手的比重只占球队的280%,这个数据在明星球员中现实上排名很低了,举个例子,曾的保罗出手比重在不异的前提下是欧文的两倍

2. 这是与勒布朗-詹姆斯打球的成见会让人们只留意到欧文季后赛高光时刻,可是只要打得欠好就会被疏忽曩昔或把锅都给詹姆斯

a )2016 和2017 年总决赛的前两场角逐：欧文场均只有20 分,真实射中率不外450%,然后球队0-2 掉队,我们只记得最后翻盘,可是却没人能留意到总决赛前两场欧文打得其实不好.

b )2017 年季后赛前两轮：欧文真实射中率不外500%,可是勒布朗天神下凡,这两轮系列赛骑士横扫过关,所以也没人说啥.

c )在2016 年总决赛第六场欧文现实上下半场阐扬极为糟,三分球七中一,要知道骑士差点遭受昔时快船对阵火箭第六场的终局崩盘,他们一度领先24 分,可是最后在第四节被追到只差8 分,可是勒布朗开启皇帝模式所以也没人留意到欧文阐扬很糟.

d )2015 年东部半决赛对阵公牛的前四场角逐：欧文360%的射中率获得18 分,可是勒布朗射中绝杀而且避免球队1-3 掉队,所以又没人留意到欧文的阐扬.

最后再上一个数据吧：欧-季后赛杀手-文季后赛场均24 +5 +3 ,真实射中率570%,哈-季后赛辣鸡-登场均28 +7 +5 ,真实射中率570%(火箭阶段),欧文由于他的球风真是吸粉太多.

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[–]Knicks10_zing 243 points 23 hours ago

His 41 in Game 5 2016 was absolutely amazing. LeBron matched it as well but if Kyrie didn 't show up there , they wouldve lost the series that game.

尼克斯球迷：他在2016 年总决赛第五场的41 分真是太不成思议了,虽然勒布朗也拿了41 分,可是假如欧文不秀起来的话,他们本会输失落那轮总决赛的.

[–][UTA ] Mehmet Okurkiticus 129 points 23 hours ago

Wait a second....50 +40 +90=180.

180 degrees is half the circumference of a circle.

The diameter of a circle is a straight line between 2 points half way between the the circumference of a circle

The line marking the diameter of a circle is flat

HOLY SHIT , THE EARTH IS FUCKING FLAT !

爵士球迷：等一下……50 +40 +90=180

180 度是圆的一半.

圆的直径是圆周长一半的两个点之间的连线.

标识表记标帜圆直径的直线也是平的.

活该,本来地球就是平的！

[–]Warriorsklankthompson 65 points 23 hours ago

Dude was tryin to tell me Butler is better than Kyrie. Nah.

勇士球迷：有人告知我巴特勒比欧文强,的确弄笑.

[–][BOS ] Tayshaun PrinceCelticsfor18th 21 points 19 hours ago

That ’s very debatable...

凯尔特人球迷：现实上真纷歧定……

[–]LakersThe_NA_Deft 48 points 22 hours ago

In the playoffs , Steph Curry is the only guard I 'd definitely take over Kyrie. Dude has absolutely balled the fuck out in big games.

湖人球迷：季后赛里,库里是独一一个我感觉能稳压欧文的人,这家伙在年夜场所里的表示太强了.

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