【键盘侠】雄鹿GM力挺字母哥拿MVP

Bucks GM Jon Horst on Giannis' MVP chances: "To me it's really clear. We've beaten Houston twice, we've got the best team in the East, the best team in the league right now record-wise. And Giannis offensively and defensively is dominating this league."

在谈到为何字母哥本赛季能竞争MVP时，雄鹿总司理霍斯特(Jon Horst)暗示：“对我而言，这是不言而喻的。我们2次击败了休斯敦火箭队，我们是东部最好的球队，也是同盟此刻战绩最好的球队。从场上的表示来看，字母哥在攻防两头都能统治同盟。”

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[–]Kings cluo40 1179 points 16 hours ago

Wow! I wonder what the Rockets GM would say about Harden's MVP chances?

国王球迷：哇！我却是好奇火箭总司理会对哈登得MVP的几率作何回覆。

[–]CM2423 948 points 16 hours ago

“We give ball to beard man. He put ball in hole. We win”

“我们把球交给年夜胡子，然后他把球放进。我们赢了。”

[–]Rockets Ihatemelo 66 points 15 hours ago

What does beating Houston have to do with winning MVP? Can Houston also say Milwaukee got swept by Phoenix to bolster its case?

火箭球迷：击败火箭和博得MVP有啥关系？那窝火能用雄鹿被太阳横扫来辩驳吗?

[–]carismo 4 points 8 hours ago

I still can’t comprehend how tf that happened.

我特么此刻都弄不懂为毛要说这个。

[–][DAL] Uwe Blab TrendyPopMusician 1931 points 16 hours ago

"We would very much like the award to go to one of our players.". --Every GM

独行侠球迷：每一个队的总司理都这么说：“我们很是但愿我们的某个队员获得MVP。”

[–]Magic speqter 436 points 15 hours ago

Dunno about that bearded guy or that Greek dude, but Vucevic deserves to win this year.

魔术球迷：对年夜胡子和阿谁希腊哥们儿不甚领会，不外武切维奇应当被选MVP。

[–]Cavaliers -Claive- 24 points 14 hours ago

Marquise Chriss for MVP.

骑士球迷：克里斯应当拿MVP。

[–]Ting_Brennan 32 points 14 hours ago

Serge Ibaka enters the room

伊巴卡进入了聊天室。

[–]Knicks DrBaus 6 points 12 hours ago

Kevin Knox for MVP

尼克斯球迷：诺克斯应当拿MVP。

[–]Suns Tankwagonboldmatters 64 points 13 hours ago

Well the Suns have beaten the Bucks twice, we've got the worst team in the West, the worst team in the league for the past decade record-wise. And Dragan Bender is an offensive and defensive liability, being rolled over by any other player in this league. Sooo...

Bender4MVP

太阳球迷：行吧，我们太阳这赛季两次击败雄鹿，我们是同盟最菜的球队，就战绩来讲，我们是同盟曩昔十年最水的球队。而本德尔在攻防两头都是我们的负累，同盟任何球员都能在他头上拉屎拉尿。所以说……

本德尔是MVP！

[–]Kings 2JMAN89 369 points 17 hours ago

The Kings swept the Spurs, does that mean Joeger is a better coach than Pop?

国王球迷：国王横扫了马刺，这莫非意味着乔格尔是比波波维奇更优异的锻练吗？

[–][TOR] Kawhi Leonard retrohhh999 307 points 16 hours ago

Yes

猛龙球迷：是的。

[–][MIL] Giannis Antetokounmpo parkertokounmpo 57 points 16 hours ago

The Kings don’t have the best record in the league. Still 6 wins behind the Spurs. And of course someone potentially winning COTY doesn’t make him better than Pop. Neither winning MVP means you’re the best player in the league.

雄鹿球迷：国王可没有同盟最好战绩，此刻还掉队马刺6个胜场呢。固然了，不管谁最后拿了年度最好锻练，都不克不及申明他的执教能力强在波波。一样的，拿了MVP也不克不及申明你就是同盟第一人。

[–]Rockets clutch-city2k15 9 points 12 hours ago

Ayton locked down Giannis and swept the Bucks. Is Ayton DPOY?

火箭球迷：艾顿锁死了字母哥，帮忙太阳横扫雄鹿。那可以说艾顿是年度最好戍守球员么?

[–]Lakers cire1184 9 points 12 hours ago

Yes.

湖人球迷：可以。

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[–]Nets Bigbadbuck 30 points 13 hours ago

I mean everything he did say is a team achievement. He's saying we have the best record and we've beaten Houston twice. The only part where he mentions giannis is saying he's dominating offensively and defensively

篮网球迷：我感觉吧，霍斯特所说的都是球队成绩。他说雄鹿战绩最好，两次克服火箭。独一提到字母哥的是说他统治攻防两头。

[–][HOU] Metta World Peace AoE2manatarms 7 points 15 hours ago

I mean what is he supposed to say, but I do believe using a regular season record is a strange defense. Everything else sounds fine though.

火箭球迷：他该怎样说才好呢，不外我真的感觉他拿常规赛交手战绩说事的起点很希奇，可其他的话貌似没弊端。

[–]Pelicans BandwagonMoltk 3 points 3 hours ago

I mean, no MVP of mine should ever be swept by the Suns.

鹈鹕球迷：我感觉吧，我心中的MVP球员是不克不及被太阳这类队横扫的。

[–]Pistons ArnieKander69 145 points 17 hours ago

The "head to head" argument is irrelevant.

But the rest of his statement about be the best player on team with the best record & the argument that Giannis is a great 2-way player is valid.

活塞球迷：霍斯特阿谁火箭雄鹿正面较劲的论调与MVP之争是没有联系关系的。

可是他其他的论据，说甚么字母哥是战绩最好球队里的最好球员，仍是同盟最好的攻防一体球员，这是站得住脚的。

[–][SAS] Dejounte Murray Ops135 18 points 16 hours ago

You don't need to point out the head to head match up 2 games don't mean shit, his other points are great arguments for giannis.

马刺球迷：真没需要指出火箭和雄鹿的正面刚，那两场角逐毛都申明不了，他其他的论据仍是很能替字母哥撑腰的。

[–]Pistons ArnieKander69 25 points 14 hours ago

Head to head is irrelevant because the MVP award isn't about one season series. It is about how you play over the course of the season. And if your team has the best season record & you are the best player, it should be valued more than someone who is the best player on a bad team.

活塞球迷：提两队正面比武的战绩毫无关连，由于MVP奖项又不是关在球队间的胜败关系，而是侧重在你在全部常规赛的表示。假如你的球队战绩同盟第一，你又是队里的最好球员，那这应当比那种菜队的最好球员价值年夜。

[–]Raptors Konfliction 14 points 16 hours ago

Honestly, this says a lot about how vague the MVP title is even described.. none of those things other the last point about Giannis seems even remotely related to being the MVP imo.

猛龙球迷：说真话，霍斯特的话足矣申明MVP的界说有何等恍惚。除他的最后一点，我感觉他的其他论调貌似与字母哥拿MVP无甚关系啊。

[–]5StarCash 59 points 17 hours ago

at least he knows they aren’t the actual best team in the league

最少霍斯特知道，他们不是同盟里真实的最好球队。

[–]Bucks The_Sign_of_Zeta 62 points 16 hours ago

He knew he didn't want that part of the quote litigated on places like Reddit.

雄鹿球迷：他一最先就知道，本身不想在我们这类论坛引发骂战。

[–]Hawks jumboponcho 369 points 16 hours ago

He should've bossed up and said best team in the league

老鹰球迷：霍斯特应当硬气点，就说雄鹿是同盟最好球队。

[–]Kafkamazov 17 points 16 hours ago

I found that interesting, too.

我也感觉这很成心思。

[–]Bucks Cambot1138 25 points 12 hours ago

He says record wise, implying the Warriors may be better because they play in the traditionally tougher west.

雄鹿球迷：他是说就球队战绩而论，暗示勇士也许更强，由于勇士可是在历来竞争更加剧烈的西部。

[–]Bucks The_Sign_of_Zeta 172 points 16 hours ago

If he did that than there would been a whole bunch of talking heads focusing on him saying best team in the league rather than Giannis.

雄鹿球迷：假如他真说了我们是同盟最强，那核心都瞄准他的这句话，而不是字母哥了。

[–]Rockets OptionRunners 57 points 15 hours ago

I'm probably going to get down voted cause people will think I'm salty looking at my flair.. but Bucks aren't even the best team in the East. It's clearly the Raptors. They have only 3 less wins and that's with Kawhi missing 22 games and Lowry missing 16... and then they added Marc Gasol lol

Not even trying to hate. But Raptors are by far the best team in the East. Arguably the best in the league.

火箭球迷：也许我会被点灭，由于大师看到我的火箭球迷标识后会感觉我是在酸……不外雄鹿乃至都不是东部最好球队啊，很明显是猛龙。他们只掉队三个胜场，并且这仍是成立在莱昂纳德缺阵22场、洛瑞缺阵16场的条件下……而且他们还引进了小加，哈哈哈哈

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[–]Rockets memeofconsciousness 50 points 16 hours ago

Isn't Harden the one dominating the league offensively?

火箭球迷：进攻端制霸同盟的莫非不是哈登吗？

[–]Rockets Human_On_Reddit 28 points 13 hours ago

Yes, he's having one of the best offensive seasons of all-time. But Giannis has more of a two-way domination argument. There's an intriguing case for either of them and I honestly think this race is even closer in principle than the 2017 race with Westbrook vs Harden.

Obviously I want Harden to win and think he deserves it for the overall most value to his team, but Giannis has a great case. One stat that blows my mind is that he has 272 dunks on the season, including 128 unassisted. That's just absurd. Shaq-level shit. It's part of the reason why Shaq himself felt comfortable giving him the Superman title.

火箭球迷：是的，他打出了有史以来进攻端最为出彩的小我赛季之一。可是字母哥是攻防两头的整体表示更强。支持他俩拿MVP的论据都很成心思，我真感觉本年的MVP之争要比17年威少和哈登的争取更加接近。

很明显，我但愿哈登拿奖，并且也感觉他配得上这个声誉，可是字母哥也是很有说服力的。他有一项数据让我很是震动啊，他这个赛季竟然有272次扣篮，包罗128次自立进攻灌框，这也太利害了些吧。这是奥尼尔级此外爆炸力啊。奥尼尔之所以能怅然把超人的头衔给到字母哥，这也是部门缘由。

[–][TOR] Dell Curry ModernPoultry 251 points 15 hours ago*

I will just say that both players are having historic seasons and both have strong arguments for MVP.

Myself personally, I will admit, even as a 'blog boi', I am still wowed by ppg and high scoring numbers so I find myself biased towards what Harden is doing carrying the Rockets but I can definitely see Giannis' case as we what he is doing is just as historic, just not resonating as much as Harden's high scoring outbursts which optically look more appealing in this boxscore/highlight video world we live in

猛龙球迷：我就感觉两个球员都打出了汗青性的赛季表示，他俩谁拿MVP都很有说服力。

就我小我而言，我认可，即便是键盘侠而论，我仍是更被场均得分和那些高分折服，所以我感觉本身更方向哈登的表示，不外我绝对也认同字母哥的优良表示，只是说他的数据没有哈登那种频仍的高分那末爆炸，更有冲击力。

[–]Bucks AlekRivard 88 points 15 hours ago

Probably the most reasonable comment in this thread - obviously I want Giannis to win but I can't dispute any of what you're saying

雄鹿球迷：你这也许是这个帖子里最理性的评论。明显我是但愿字母哥拿奖的，可是你让我无可回嘴。

[–]76ers CraftyCoach 9 points 11 hours ago

Thing is, it’s not a team award. Yes, Giannis is leading the Bucks and the main reason for this, but MVP isn’t a team award. Harden went off this season in scoring. Giannis has been consistently good, but nothing historic that I can think of. I could be wrong with that but I just feel like Harden is more deserving of the MVP

76人球迷：要害在在，MVP不是团队奖项。是的，字母哥率领雄鹿一路高歌大进，也是他拿奖的首要来由，可MVP终归不是团队奖项啊。哈登这个赛季在得分上迎来了年夜爆发，字母哥也是一向都表示很超卓，可我感觉他还算不上是汗青性的表示。或许我是错的，可是我就感觉哈登更该拿MVP。

[–]Bucks trinquin 5 points 10 hours ago

27/12/6 is pretty damn historic when only Oscar has done it before.

雄鹿球迷：27+12+6的数据已很特么汗青性了，之前只有奥斯卡-罗伯逊做到过。

[–][PHI] Ben Simmons wcseduction 34 points 15 hours ago

Not hating on Giannis but his stats this year are very similar to his stats last year. The Bucks built a great team around him in a weak East. What Harden is doing is literally historic I don’t see how you don’t give it to him.

76人球迷：我也不是厌恶字母哥，可是他这个赛季的数据和上赛季很接近啊。雄鹿在相对羸弱的东部环绕字母哥打造了一支强力球队。哈登所做的才是真实的汗青性表示，想欠亨为啥不把MVP给他。

[–][HOU] Moochie Norris Incite-GG 65 points 14 hours ago*

No. As hard as I'm rooting for Harden to win MVP, there is absolutely no way you can argue Giannis' stats are similar to last year. He's playing 4 less minutes, but scoring more points on higher efficiency with less shots taken. His rebounding and assists have increased significantly with less time played.

I'm someone who heavily favors Harden in the MVP race but there is absolutely no way you can deny Giannis is having a significantly better season than last year and is having a truly incredible season.

Bucks great coaching and roster improvements while being situated in the east are not the reason I think Harden should win MVP.

火箭球迷：不，虽然说我是死力撑持哈登拿MVP的，可是你绝对不克不及说字母哥的数据和上赛季差不多。他这个赛季场均进场少了4分钟，可是在出手很少的条件下，打出了更高的效力和更多的得分。在进场时候削减的环境下，他的篮板和助攻都急剧增添。

我是很保护哈登的，不外字母哥这个赛季的表示确切长短常难以置信的，并且要比上赛季前进很是年夜，这是绝对不克不及否定的。

简直，雄鹿的锻练更好，声势的晋升，并且还在实力相对较弱的东部，可我其实不把这些当作是哈登得MVP的来由。

[–]Just AntherAlt 17 points 15 hours ago

I'll honestly stop attributing any worth to the award if Harden doesn't win this year. Giannis would have to be the best defender of the past 20 years for it to overcome Harden's offensive output.

如果哈登这个赛季没拿奖，那我真的不感觉这个奖项还啥价值。字母哥只有打出曩昔20年戍守第一人的水准才能超出哈登在进攻真个蛮横输出。

[–]Warriors MacDerfus 8 points 14 hours ago

I'd give Giannis the edge due to being the best player on the best team by record at the time of voting.

勇士球迷：我感觉字母哥优势更年夜，究竟他是同盟最好战绩球队里的最好球员，这点在投票时老是会被斟酌的。

[–]Timberwolves JSS0075 60 points 12 hours ago

laughs in Westbrook

丛林狼球迷：威少笑了。

[–][WAS] Courtney Alexander heyrak 11 points 16 hours ago

Both players have credible arguments to win the MVP. Neither needs an argument against the other. What they have each done is really special. Both have been underratted significantly by their detractors.

I had Giannis at 1 until very very recently and Harden has just passed him for me.

But whomever you think should win, I think we can all agree on one thing:

Fuck the stupid awards show being not for like 2+ months by which point I will barely care.

奇才球迷：字母哥和哈登不管谁拿奖，来由都是可以使人佩服的。没需要捧一踩一。他们各自的表示真的很非凡。他俩的表示都被各自的喷子低估了良多。

我本来是站字母哥的，可是比来我感觉哈登反超了。

可是不管你感觉谁能拿奖，我感觉有一点是我们都认同的：

阿谁傻x的颁奖竟然还要等两个多月，那会儿我都不年夜在意了。

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