【键盘侠】裤子得分助攻均超獭兔

Kyle Kuzma is now outscoring, outshooting, and out-assisting Jayson Tatum at this point in the season. All while taking only 2 more FG per game.

赛季至今，凯尔-库兹马的场均得分(19.1对16.4)、场均助攻(2.4对1.9)和射中率(46.80%对45.30%)均高在杰森-塔图姆。只是库兹马的场均出手要比塔图姆多两次(15.5对13.3)。

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[–]Nets LanaRhoades- 72 points 7 hours ago

Also 3 years older

篮网球迷：那库兹马还年夜三岁呢

[–]Celtics Prestige-W0rldwide 31 points 7 hours ago

By the time Tatum is Kuzma’s age he’ll be in his 5th season

凯尔特人球迷：等塔图姆有库兹马那末年夜的时辰，他都在同盟有五年了。

[–]wingram24 329 points 7 hours ago

And Tatum is only going to get younger every year.

并且塔图姆每一年只会加倍年青是吧

[–]Thunder Rockstar408 1351 points 7 hours ago

Yeah but he’s like 100 years old, dead any second

雷霆球迷：对啊，库兹马都像有100岁了，随时都要挂

[–][TOR] Pops Mensah-Bonsu Saprano44 134 points 7 hours ago

He can barely even walk back to the seniors home after the game, that’s how broken down his body is

猛龙球迷：库兹马赛后乃至都够戗能走回他的豪宅，他的身体就是已老化这么利害了。

[–]klawhileonard 43 points 7 hours ago

I’m expecting him to have kidney failure any game now, he’s no young gun like Tatum

我此刻等着库兹马在肆意一场角逐里呈现肾衰竭呢，究竟他不像塔图姆那样年青生猛。

[–]Lakers ZappsMissingUndies 15 points 6 hours ago

Only got a couple more years left before he's forced to retire.

湖人球迷：再过几年，库兹马就不能不退役了。

[–]Russell Westbeast 1531 points 7 hours ago

We’ll talk when Tatum hits puberty

等塔图姆进入芳华期了我们再聊吧

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant flexingtonsteele 46 points 5 hours ago

Only 6 more years!!!!

湖人球迷：那不是只有六年了！！！

[–]MySisterGotBigTits 16 points 7 hours ago

This is bullshit. Kuzma can’t be better than the next kobe Bryant + Michael Jordan

纯洁扯淡嘛。库兹马怎样比得上下一个科比和乔丹的连系体呢

[–]Warriors bluelightnings 257 points 5 hours ago

We’ll talk when Tatum is born

勇士球迷：我们仍是比及塔图姆诞生以后再聊吧

[–][ATL] Joe Johnson CheungkingMansions 54 points 5 hours ago

When vet Tatum is in his 30s, I feel like r/nba is still gonna be meming that he's still super young. He's only 35 bro, imagine him in his prime.

老鹰球迷：比及宿将塔图姆30多的时辰，我感受巴里仍是会玩梗说他依然超等年青。“他才35啊老弟，想象他到巅峰会多牛吧”

[–]lancer2451 53 points 5 hours ago

Yeah and Ben Simmons is gonna be 10x Rookie of the year

是啊，本-西蒙斯怕是也拿了10个赛季最好新秀了。

[–]pointblank3d 16 points 7 hours ago

Y'all don't stop do you

你们还完没完了

[–]76ers tiggs 479 points 5 hours ago

Man, it must get really tiring having to constantly defend a highly criticized rookie from the 2017 draft class. Thank god we don't have any of those.

76人球迷：天呐，一向不断地去保护一个饱受攻讦的2017级生，必定很累。好在我们没有如许的球员。

[–]Lakers Dill_Pickles824 98 points 4 hours ago

RIP FUltz

湖人球迷：安眠吧，富尔茨

[–]hammer6nyy 486 points 7 hours ago*

So... why cant Kuzma continue to improve? I know some people are just memeing, but theres still a lot of people saying he is hitting his ceiling

所以说……为啥你们要说库兹马不克不及继续前进呢？我知道有些人就是玩梗，不外仍是有良多人感觉库兹马到上限了。

[–]CRoseCrizzle 48 points 7 hours ago

Cuzma already 30.

究竟库兹马已30了。

[–]Lakers John_Winchester 498 points 7 hours ago

The only reason is they think 23 is too old.

湖人球迷：他们之所以感觉库兹马到上限了，只是由于他们感觉23岁太老。

[–]HomoChef 92 points 5 hours ago

Damian Lillard did 4 years in college.

Kuzma is just a year older than Donovan Mitchell also. 6 inches taller.

But Mitchell is ‘gonna be a stud’ but Kuzma has ZERO upside potential.

Imagine Donovan Mitchell instead of Kuzma in that trade package. Who doesn’t take that deal?

利拉德年夜学也上了四年啊。

库兹马只比米切尔年夜一岁，可是他比米切尔高6英寸啊。

但是，他们就感觉米切尔“会成为球星”，而库兹马往上冲破的潜力是0.

如果那笔戴维斯的买卖里把库兹马换成米切尔，谁会谢绝呢？

[–]Warriors Schkateboarda 12 points 3 hours ago

Me tbh

Not a huge fan of Mitchell. I’d take the deal with Kuzma tho

勇士球迷：说真话，我会谢绝。

我不年夜喜好米切尔，可是我会接管有库兹马的买卖。

[–][TOR] Pops Mensah-Bonsu Saprano44 874 points 7 hours ago

Ahhh to be 23 again, what a great year. I retired from the firm, sold my house, moved into a retirement community and now play golf, shuffleboard and bingo with all my buddies.

猛龙球迷：啊，又是23岁啊，何等美好的年数。那年我从公司退休了，卖了房产，搬到一个养老社区，此刻和一帮老伴计打着高尔夫、推圆盘、还玩消消乐呢。

[–]Trail Blazers crab90000 142 points 5 hours ago

I want this, but unironically. It actually sounds amazing

开辟者球迷：我想要这类糊口呢，不外很嘲讽的是，这类糊口听起来真挺爽的。

[–]Yeetkata 56 points 4 hours ago

This is what college is bro. So hopefully u have that to look forward too. I work full-time and got a decent job... but damn I miss having free time and hanging with the boys

老弟，这就是年夜学糊口啊。所以但愿你也能有那样的等候。我此刻全职干着一份还算面子的工作……可是我靠啊，我纪念当初那些和小火伴们一路纵容不羁的自由光阴。

[–]Trail Blazers crab90000 56 points 4 hours ago

I'm in college now. But work a minimum of 31hours while having 17 credits. The only free time is Mondays with 4 hours between my 2nd to last and last class to play basketball

开辟者球迷：我此刻就在读年夜学。不外挣17个学分的同时，每周起码还得兼职31个小时。独一的余暇时候就是周一了，就我第二节课到最后一节那四个小时的时候，最后一节课就去打篮球了。

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[–]Lakers awntawn 35 points 5 hours ago

Second year growth comparison:

Kyle Kuzma (old and at his ceiling)

PPG +3.0

TS0% +1.30%

PP36 +2.5

Jayson Tatum (young and limitless potential)

PPG +2.5

TS0% -2.90%

PP36 +2.6

湖人球迷：第二年成长对照：

库兹马(大哥且已到上限)：场均得分 +3、真实射中率 +1.30%、每进场36分钟得分 +2.5；

塔图姆(年青且潜力无穷)：场均得分 +2.5、真实射中率 -2.90%、每进场36分钟得分 +2.6；

[–]76ers thefreeman419 367 points 7 hours ago

Way worse at defense tho

76人球迷：不外库兹马的戍守要比塔图姆差太多。

[–]Lakers John_Winchester 38 points 5 hours ago*

It's not offense that makes people say Tatum > Kuzma, it's both sides of the floor. Kuzma is the better offensive threat, but it's comparable. I think Kuzma is easily the player who will go off for 50 points one day, whereas Tatum probably won't go off for 35 that often (personal opinion). But Tatum is already an elite great wing defender, and Kuzma is a negative asset on D.

湖人球迷：大师之所以说塔图姆比库兹马强不是单说进攻的，而是球场攻防两头的表示。库兹马在进攻真个要挟更年夜，不外也是相对来讲的。我感觉，库兹马是那种某天可以等闲拿到50分的球员，而塔图姆也许暴走得35分的频率都没库兹马高(小我不雅点)。可是呢，塔图姆真的已是个顶尖的侧翼戍守人了，而库兹马在戍守端仍是个累坠。

[–][LAL] Josh Hart lalo1398 37 points 5 hours ago

I think Tatum's defense is getting overrated. Don't get me wrong, he's way better than Kuz, but let's not overstate it.

湖人球迷：我感觉塔图姆的戍守被过誉了。别曲解我，他的戍守确切比库兹马强良多，可是我们也不克不及吹得过分了。

[–]aquadamn 16 points 4 hours ago

Not an elite defender but much better than Kuz, the combo of Jaylen/Smart and Tatum is really good for the wings

他确切还不是个顶尖戍守人，不外要比库兹马强太多，布朗或斯玛特和塔图姆真的是很棒的侧翼组合。

[–]Knicks igotkristaps 278 points 7 hours ago

If i'm building a championship team and need elite role players to fill out my roster i'm taking kuzma. If i'm starting a franchise from scratch i'm taking tatum.

尼克斯球迷：假如我要组建一支争冠球队，需要顶尖的脚色球员弥补声势的话，那我会选择库兹马。假如我要从零最先组建一支球队，那我会选塔图姆。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant MooseBadda 96 points 7 hours ago

A very measured take

湖人球迷：你还真是两端不获咎。

[–][PHI] Jrue Holiday mxnoob983 79 points 5 hours ago

Kinda disagree here. Tatum is a much better defender and a better 3pt shooter, which are the more valuable role player traits

76人球迷：我有点分歧意。塔图姆是个比库兹马强良多的戍守人，并且他的三分更好，这类脚色球员特质更加珍贵。

[–]PetalumaPegleg 92 points 5 hours ago

That is reasonable, but I can only imagine how badly Kuzma would be targeted in a real competitive playoff series. Tatum already showed he wasn't a defensive liability.

我感觉那哥们儿很理智，不外我只能想见库兹马到了真美金真枪的季后赛中会碰到如何辣手的针对性摆设。究竟塔图姆已证实过了，他在戍守端不会是球队的负累。

[–]Supersonics Hennythepainaway 12 points 5 hours ago

Kuz is cheaper though

超音速球迷：可是库兹马更廉价啊。

[–]NBA PhantomBear_626 20 points 4 hours ago

Hot Take:

They're both good players

我大胆说一句啊：他俩都是很不错的球员。

[–]langolier27 34 points 7 hours ago

No!!! There can be only one!

/s

不！！！他俩必需比个高低！(狗头)

[–][BOS] Jayson Tatum Dondon1927 14 points 5 hours ago

Is Tatum gonna be attached to Kuzma forever?

凯尔特人球迷：塔图姆这是一生都要和库兹马捆在一起了吗？

[–]Supersonics rjcarr 45 points 6 hours ago

Can't you all just be happy you got a really good late first pick and leave it at that?

超音速球迷：一个首轮末位的选秀签已这么利害了，你们就不克不及单为这个兴奋，其他的随它去吗？

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant Count_Sack_McGee 32 points 4 hours ago

No

湖人球迷：不可！

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[–]Celtics rajistheman69420 237 points 7 hours ago

Define “outshooting”. Tatum shoots far better from 3 and from the line. Also, “out-assisting” is the difference between 1.9 and 2.4. Tatum is out-rebounding kuzma by .7, but that apparently isn’t as relevant as the .5 difference in assists?

I love kuzma, but this isn’t really all that fair, it also doesn’t even mention the massive disparity in defense.

凯尔特人球迷：怎样界说“投篮更强”呢，塔图姆在三分线和罚球线的射中率要强良多。并且，“助攻更强”也就是1.9和2.4的区分。塔图姆的篮板还比库兹马多0.7个呢，可是这就和助攻上的0.5次的不同没得比吗？

我很喜好库兹马，可是这个比力真没那末公允，并且还没说起俩人在戍守上的庞大差别呢。

[–]Lakers misterrunon 69 points 7 hours ago

A lot of Laker fans echo the same thing. I do think Tatum is overrated, but he's still a better asset than Kuzma. He's a better all-around player, but Tatum hasn't shown an ability to be a star player (IMO Kuzma hasn't either. He can be an all-star, but the weight of his gravity is not star-level).

I'd take Tatum over Kuzma right now, but not by a wide margin.

湖人球迷：良多湖蜜也是这么看的。我感觉塔图姆被高估了，可他依然是个强在库兹马的买卖资产。他是个更加周全的球员，不外塔图姆还没展现出足以成为球星的实力(我感觉库兹马也没有。他可以成为全明星，可是他的“引力感化”还没到球星级别)。

此刻我会把塔图姆放在库兹马前面，可是两边差距没那末年夜。

[–]Celtics rajistheman69420 18 points 7 hours ago

I agree, I don’t like comparing them right now either, but I saw some things in this post that were pretty bs and felt like I needed to address it. Hope Kuz continues to rise for y’all

凯尔特人球迷：我赞成，并且我也不喜好此刻拿他俩作比力，不外我我看到这个帖子里有些谈吐真的鬼扯，感觉有需要去改正。

但愿库兹马继续和你们一路成长。

[–]Lakers yenzy 8 points 5 hours ago

Word, I feel like most Lakers fans would agree that Tatum is the better player, but there are people on here saying that the Pels should take Tatum over the entire Lakers young core. Like wtf?

Also, Lonzo + Kuz > Tatum + Jaylen imo. Lonzo is a very good defender and a pretty great floor general. People don't realize how good he was last year when he had a very consistent starting role.

湖人球迷：赞成，我感受年夜部门湖蜜都是认同塔图姆比库兹马强的，不外这里良多人都说鹈鹕应当选择带有塔图姆的买卖筹马，而不要湖人的全部年青焦点团队。这特么闹呢？

并且，我感觉鲍尔+库兹马的组合要强在塔图姆+布朗的组合。鲍尔是个很是好的戍守人，也是个很棒的场上批示官。当上赛季他首颁发现很是稳健的时辰，大师没成心识到他有何等优异。

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