【键盘侠】安东尼

Antoine Walker: "I think Giannis over Harden [for MVP]. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy watching Harden play. But when you're dribbling 20 times, you're going 5-19 from 3, it's tough to give a guy like that MVP."

安东尼-沃克：“我感觉本年字母哥应当在MVP评选上是跨越哈登的，先别急着喷我，我仍是挺喜好看哈登打球的，可是一个是运球杀进禁区20次，一个是在三分线外19中5，我感觉很难给后者MVP吧。”

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[–]Lakersthedoctor0918 1600 points 9 hours ago

I enjoy watching Harden play.

Proceeds to shit on Harden’s playstyle lol

湖人球迷：我很享受哈登这么打球——然后后面就最先喷哈登打球体例哈哈哈。

[–]CelticsEnjoyWolfCola 498 points 9 hours ago

He’s being ironic and shitting on his own playstyle via Harden.

凯尔特人球迷：真的嘲讽，假如他说哈登的打球体例欠好不就等在在骂本身？

(注：安东尼-沃克很是喜好浪投三分)

[–][GSW] Jordan BellCalamariEnthusiast 71 points 6 hours ago

god I fucking love steph but the fact that people are using him as a benchmark for 3P efficiency is absurd lol

勇士球迷：老天，我很是喜好斯蒂芬-库里，可是假如人们用他来表达三分是更有用率的得分体例的确不要太风趣啊。

[–]Bucksweliveinasociety-ye 725 points 8 hours ago

the reasoning for giannis over harden is defense and team success, not harden sometimes going 5-19 from 3 lmao

雄鹿球迷：诚恳说字母哥能比哈登强只多是由于戍守或是雄鹿战绩更好一些，其实不是哈登偶然会投出三分19中5如许糟射中率的缘由哈哈哈。

[–]pkwjphotos 345 points 8 hours ago

Walker is just jealous Harden is allowed to jack up 19 threes without anyone trying to stop him or complain about it.

沃克仅仅是妒忌哈登能被答应投19个三分并且还没人禁止他而且埋怨他吧哈哈哈。

[–]Warriorsuncomfortablyhigh 91 points 6 hours ago*

when asked why he shot so many 3s, he responded "because there are no 4s.”

勇士球迷：当被问和沃克为何投这么多三分时，他的回应是“由于没有4分球。”

[–]RaptorsSimhim12 39 points 5 hours ago

Antoine "430% from the line and 400% from 3" Walker

猛龙球迷：安东尼奥-430%罚球射中率、400%三分球射中率-沃克。

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[–]Knickswhyallthefire 119 points 8 hours ago

Harden's not even going 5-19, he's shooting 37.50% from three, that's 5-13

Fantastic percentage considering pretty much all of those are contested, off the dribble step backs

尼克斯球迷：哈登三分线外可不是19中5，他的三分球射中率是37.50%，这是13中5.

斟酌到他遭受这么多谨防死守还那末多后撤步三分，这个数据很是优异啊。

[–]Celticsclumsynoah 73 points 8 hours ago

The guy's completely unrivaled in his efficiency on the 12-dribble stepback 3 against a defense that knows you want that.

It is a lot more fun to watch the Bucks though, Giannis uses possessions quicker and with more reliable plays, he isn't really missing the rebounds or assists, and he's a bonus center on defense.

It's kinda hard to believe that Harden's game isn't fun to watch because people were willing to watch Kobe take 40 shots all throughout the 2000's, but I do believe it. Maybe it's the historically many free throws taking up time, maybe it's the beard. IMO even more importantly, it's difficult to watch a 10 man roster where 600% of the team salary is injured.

凯尔特人球迷：这家伙能连运十二次而且在匹敌戍守的同时射中后撤步三分，这类效力的确无与伦比啊。

可是此刻看雄鹿的角逐更有趣，字母哥更快而且能打出更多可依靠的回合，他不会错过任何篮板和助攻，在戍守端他站焦点中锋的位置。

很难相信哈登的角逐不有趣，由于人们在2000年时很愿意看到科比疯狂出手40次，可是我确切相信哈登的角逐没那末有趣，究竟罚球占去了太多的时候，或有的人就是由于哈登感觉不有趣的，可是更主要的是，当你掀开火箭的十人年夜名单时，你会发现他们占600%球队薪水的球员都受伤了。

[–]Knickswhyallthefire 40 points 8 hours ago

I honestly love watching harden

尼克斯球迷：诚恳说，我还挺喜好看哈登打球的。

[–]Bullsmonolith17 469 points 10 hours ago

I actually think Giannis is going to win it over harden.

Harden has been an insane usage guy, but Giannis is putting up unreal stats and team success has to matter at some point.

公牛球迷：我真的相信字母哥最后会在MVP评选中赢下哈登。

哈登的利用率太夸张了，可是字母哥的数据不成思议，并且某些时刻球队战绩也挺主要的吧。

[–]Celticsbrajpop 112 points 6 hours ago

Efficiency and defense as well.

凯尔特人球迷：并且效力和戍守也……

[–]LakersJimmyB3574 58 points 6 hours ago

What? So harden putting up 36/7/8 arent insane stats? Thats crazy

湖人球迷：啥？36+7+8不是一个不成思议的数据吗？这太疯狂了吧。

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[–]Netsbhoops97 32 points 6 hours ago

I think Harden can still win it but the rockets have to go on a run and get to at least the 3rd seed in the West. Harden is not winning the MVP if the Rockets are the 5th seed.

But yeah I agree, Giannis is the favorite at this very moment. If the season ended today, he’d win

篮网球迷：我感觉哈登能继续赢下MVP，可是火箭得继续暴走而且最少在西部拿到三号种子，假如火箭仅仅排名第五我感觉哈登拿不到MVP。

可是我也赞成，字母哥此刻是同盟确当红辣子鸡，假如这个赛季此刻竣事，他会拿MVP的。

[–]76ersLJFozzz 45 points 5 hours ago

i mean westbrook won it with the thunder as a 6 seed; I think harden deserves it

76人球迷：威少昔时西部第六都能拿MVP，我感觉哈登一样实至名归。

[–]SpursGGezpzMuppy 169 points 10 hours ago

Lmao saying the only reason Giannis deserves the MVP is because Harden cant shoot lol

马刺球迷：这谈吐挺弄笑的哈，字母哥能赢哈登独一的缘由是由于哈登能射？

[–]NetsLanaRhoades- 102 points 9 hours ago

Ironic cause Giannis shoots 210% from three

篮网球迷：更嘲讽的是字母哥三分球射中率210%。

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[–]FewMaybe4 178 points 10 hours ago

Giannis is MVP but not for that reasoning.

字母哥会是MVP，可是这不是缘由。

[–]mangotictacs 244 points 9 hours ago*

This is literally the dumbest take I’ve ever heard. He’s scoring 37 points a game on 620% efficiency. League average is like 550%. Houston, despite losing CP3, EG, Clint and other guys for long periods, are the number 3 offense in the league. Powered by one dude who may end up with the most ppg since Wilt, and with 9 assists a game at the same time.

That is what James Harden is doing. How the fuck you gonna criticise him for pounding it 20 times if it works to this kind of success? Why would you point to his 5/20 nights and ignore the bigger picture efficiency numbers?

这个谈吐是我此刻听到的最笨拙的谈吐，哈登以620%的真实射中率场均砍下37分，同盟平均程度不外550%，火箭在掉去保罗、戈登、卡佩拉和其他一些人很长时候，可是球队进攻效力仍然是同盟前三，这类能量估量只有昔时张年夜帅才能做到吧，更不要说场均还能有9个助攻呢。

这就是哈登做的工作，你们怎样能攻讦他？你们怎样能指着他偶然20中5的低迷状况而疏忽他的壮大？

[–][NYK] Baron Davisthemariokarters 115 points 10 hours ago

But they literally gave Westbrook MVP lol

尼克斯球迷：可是他们最后给了威少MVP哈哈哈。

[–]Thunderyusbishyus 59 points 10 hours ago

You're forgetting something about that. Plus, he was pretty good that year.

雷霆球迷：看来你们确切已健忘了一些工作，威少本年打得真的很好。

[–]RaptorsKawhiGotUsNow 61 points 10 hours ago

He does have nights like that tho

He went 5-20 against Knicks

Still scored 61 points

猛龙球迷：有的时辰哈登确切19中5了，好比打尼克斯就20中5了，可是他仍是得了61分啊。

[–][HOU] Clint CapelaDickInLebronsAss 75 points 10 hours ago

he had a game where he shot 1-17 from three and still ended up with 38 points

火箭球迷：曾的他有一场角逐三分17中1，可是依然获得了38分。

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[–][NYK] Walt FrazierMyLadySansa 113 points 9 hours ago

Well, I know I'll get downvoted for even attempting to answer your questions but a lot of people simply don't worship TS the way r/nba and some in the media do. It's not commonly brought up on sports shows, and many old school players are just anti-advanced stats in general. I'll be downvoted for this, I'm sure, but I kind of think Harden has broken TS b/c of his free-throw shooting and high volume three point shooting.

I personally believe elite efficiency is really simple: great overall FG0%, terrific free throw shooting, and, if a player takes threes at a high volume, 400% or better. Harden doesn't shoot great overall, is a terrific free throw shooter, and is a good three point shooter on the volume he takes. I think he has good efficiency, but not ELITE efficiency. I think Steph has elite efficiency. He checks every one of my boxes. Harden does not and I don't think he does for others who aren't all about TS.

I know I'll be downvoted now but it's just my opinion and I think it's just as valid as anyone else's.

尼克斯球迷：嗯，我知道我会由于试图回覆你某些问题而被否决，但良多人底子不喜好Reddit和一些媒体的做法，良多老派球员都很否决那些高阶数据，我也不撑持这个，可是我感觉哈登确切打破了罚球射中率和高三分出手的均衡。

小我而言我感觉精英级此外效力界说很是简单：好的投篮射中率，良多发球和假如一个球员投良多三分，那末400%的射中率就再好不外了，哈登整体射中率不高，他的罚球很是多而且斟酌到他出手的数目，他的射中率也还说得曩昔，所以我感觉他有着不错的效力，可是其实不是精英级此外效力，我感觉库里有着精英级此外效力，他知足我给的所有前提，哈登没有所以我不感觉真实射中率决议一切。

我知道我此刻是否决你的不雅点的，但这只是我的不雅点，我感觉这个不雅点和其他人一样是有用的。

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