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【键盘侠】威少连续八场三双

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威少连续八场三双|这数据真的被高估了吗?

Russell Westbrook got his 8th straight triple double last night. Passing Michael Jordan for longest triple double streak in 51 years.

拉塞尔-威斯布鲁克在昨日的角逐中持续第八次拿下三双,超出迈克尔-乔丹,而且有望打破尘封51年的持续三双记实。

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[–][NYK] Nate RobinsonTheKnicksHateMe 452 points 14 hours ago

Actually very surprised russ hasn't done this already.

尼克斯球迷:现实上我很是震动,威少此前居然没有告竣这一成绩。

[–]ThunderAedanwolfe 199 points 13 hours ago

He has hit 7 games in a row two other times, just had trouble getting that 8th game lol

雷霆球迷:他此前两次都持续七次拿了三双,可是在第八场角逐每次都出了点问题。

[–]PacersAremRed 47 points 11 hours ago

So really he passed Jordan once and his co-record twice.

步行者球迷:所以他真的超出乔丹加本身的记实两次嘛?

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[–]Kekukoka 1195 points 16 hours ago

He's actually going to pass Magic in triple doubles this season. How the fuck.

他确切已在三双上超出了魔术师了,我的个天老爷了。

[–]MavericksMrKalyoncu 824 points 15 hours ago

Back to back to back triple double seasons....

独行侠球迷:三连赛季场均三双……

[–][OKC] Paul GeorgePervy_Sensei 714 points 14 hours ago

The triple triple double

雷霆球迷:这就是传说中的三三双……

[–]ThunderH_Town_Baby 361 points 12 hours ago

Russ just fucking making up statistical achievements

雷霆球迷:威少真的是数据狂魔。

[–][OKC] Paul GeorgePervy_Sensei 224 points 12 hours ago

Smh dude is stat padding historical seasons, why are we even acting like it’s impressive

雷霆球迷:哈哈哈,这家伙又缔造了一个汗青性的赛季,所以我们为啥才感受不成思议啊……

[–]Warriorsborntoperform 158 points 12 hours ago

Living in the Bay Area, and my coworker and I were talking NBA shop yesterday about who the MVP currently is, and then we started talking about WestGOAT, and he says, Man he's such a stat padder. Like, do you fucking realize he is about to average a triple double for a season for the third straight season? At some point, reducing this to simply stat padding doesn't really answer how, aside from the Beard, no one else consistently gets even half the number of triple doubles he gets.

勇士球迷:我住在湾区,我和我的同时那时在NBA的商铺里会商此刻的MVP,当我们会商到西部史上最好年夜威少的时辰,他来了一句,“兄弟,他真的是个数据缔造者,”“你发现他已持续第三个赛季场均三双了嘛?”有的时辰这数据你也真的不知道咋来的,可是除年夜胡子,似乎没人能获得他一半的三双数据。

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[–][BOS] Marcus SmartIdEgoLeBron 117 points 11 hours ago

Harden had 4 to Russ's 21 last year, and he has 6 to Russ's 25 this year. Let's be real, Harden is one of the most talented players in the NBA, and he can barely manage 1/5th of Russ's.

凯尔特人球迷:哈登上赛季4个三双,威少21个,本赛季他6个三双威少本赛季已25个了,所以真实点吧,虽然哈登是NBA最具先天的球员,可是他的三双也不外是年夜威少的五分之一。

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[–][PHI] Dario Saricbrahlicious 74 points 15 hours ago

And not even an all-star starter ...

76人球迷:如许的人乃至都不是全明星首发……

[–]Lakersrutgersjf 336 points 14 hours ago

41/24/64 split is pretty horrendous, triple double or not

湖人球迷:射中率41+24+64也太烂了吧,除三双也没此外了……

[–]Rocketscbs1507 54 points 13 hours ago

At least he's shooting less this year, which has really benefited the Thunder.

火箭球迷:最少他本年投得很少,这对雷霆已年夜有好处的。

[–][WAS] Moses Maloneburnerfret 290 points 15 hours ago

lol, I remember when Jordan was on that streak (I think Doug Collins was trying him at PG IIRC?) and it was absolutely mind-blowing at the time.

奇才球迷:哈哈哈,我还记适当时乔丹持续7次拿三双(那时的控卫时邓恩-柯林斯?)那时真的是爆炸会商啊。

[–]KnicksIllAlwaysBeAKnickFan 298 points 14 hours ago

Russell Westbrook has pretty much singlehandedly normalized triple doubles. I remember just 5 years ago, a triple double was crazy. Now it’s kind of just whatever.

尼克斯球迷:拉塞尔-威斯布鲁克真的是大众化三双了,我还记得五年前三双仍是很强的,此刻大师就都无所谓起来了。

[–]Thundera_weak_child 53 points 12 hours ago

It is not just whatever. It is still cool as fuck, I don't care what the media or other people think, I am freaking out about it and love watching it happen year after year.

雷霆球迷:其实不无所谓啊,此刻仍然很酷,我不关心社交媒体和此外人怎样想的,我就是为三双感应兴奋而且喜好看这个表演一年又一年。

[–]Wizardsprettymuthafucka 142 points 12 hours ago

This is so under rated but a Woj tweet saying AD still hasn't been traded gets 40k upvotes lol

奇才球迷:这才是热点帖子啊,可是Woj就发了一个“安东尼-戴维斯”不会被买卖就会获得40000的附和哈哈哈。

[–][LAL] Lonzo Ballcwillard260 203 points 15 hours ago

This just feels normal at this point but it’s super impressive

湖人球迷:这一刹时我感觉有些平平无奇,可是确切很是使人印象深入。

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[–]WhileFalseRepeat 681 points 16 hours ago

I am very aware of Westbrook's flaws, but no player is perfect and this is *extraordinary*. Some players have super powers that others do not seem to possess - like Harden with his foul-drawing mastery. Westbrook's super power is the triple double.

People are acting like this is normal or something these days. Give this man RESPECT.

我真的意想到威少的错误谬误,可是没有球员浑然一体啊,有些人具有非凡的能量并且他人就是没有——就像哈登和他造犯规的能力,威少的的非凡能力就是三双。

人们表示的就像是这些工具都习觉得常啊,给这个汉子一些尊敬好吧。

[–][WAS] Moses Maloneburnerfret 262 points 15 hours ago

It feels like the triple-double was called overrated so often, it's become underrated.

奇才球迷:感受大师都感觉对三双这个数据高看了,现实上是被低估了。

[–]RaptorsJacoIII 519 points 12 hours ago*2

People view the triple-double as a useless statistic since, they argue, it's just a random benchmark. The thing is: they're right. How different is a 20/10/10 season from a 20/9.5/9.5 season? Not very, it's just 41 rebounds/assists over an 82 game season.

So I think the best way to look at Westbrook's statistical achievements is to lower the bar by about 200% and see how many other players have managed to leap over it. If it's a lot of players, then it's arguable that Westbrook is being overrated because triple-double sounds good. If he stands mostly alone, then he's rightly viewed as one of the most impressive players ever.

How many players have had 20/10/10 seasons? 2 players (Robertson, Westbrook) and 3 seasons between them.

Let's reduce rebs/assists by 100%. How many players have had 20/9/9 seasons? Still only 2 players, but now it's 6 total seasons (4 for Robertson). Wow, so far Westbrook's achievements are holding up.

How about 20/8/8 (200% reduction)? Now the list starts to expand. We get 6 players total and 12 seasons. Joining Westbrook and Robertson are: Michael Jordan (1 season), Wilt Chamberlain (1 season), James Harden (1 season), and LeBron James (2 seasons). Magic Johnson has two seasons which almost qualify, one 20/8/8 season where he only played 37 games and a second season where he played 77 but was 9 rebounds short on averaging 8 for the season. Bad luck, Magic.

Let's do one more: 15/8/8. Even by dropping the points requirement by a full 250% we only add a single player and season: Ben Simmons' rookie year. EDIT: I forgot to mention that Magic Johnson's '81-'82 season also qualifies here.

So, to conclude, even by dropping the statistical requirements by 200% (and 250% for points) we see that only 6 other players have managed to achieve anything close to what Westbrook is doing and 5/6 are all-time greats while the 6th is a 6'10 PG whose career is just getting started. Basically, averaging a season of 20/8/8 is one of the hardest things to do in basketball and any player who manages it (or even gets close) is probably a generational talent.

tl;dr Westbrook is pretty fucking great.

猛龙球迷:人们都说三双是一个没有效的手艺指标,不外是一个随机的数据罢了,确切他们说的没啥问题,20+10+10和20+9.5+9.5差距不年夜,确切差不太多,不外是82场角逐少得了42个篮板和42个助攻罢了。

所以我感觉看威少的数据成绩就是下降这个数据200%然后来看看有几多球员能到达这个要求,假如有良多球员,那就证实威少这个数据被高估了不外是听起来好听一点,假如他仍是一小我的话,就申明他是一个很是壮大的球员。

所以有几多人单赛季能拿20+10+10?两个球员(罗伯特森、威斯布鲁克)和持续三个赛季,让我们把尺度下降百分之十,有几多人拿到20+9+9?依然是两个球员,可是一共有六个赛季了(有四个是罗伯特森了),所以威少的成绩保住一成。

那假如削减百分之二十,数据到20+8+8呢,榜单确切睁开了很多:一共有6个球员总共十二个赛季,插手威斯布鲁克和罗伯森行列里的有:乔丹(1个赛季)、张伯伦(1个赛季)、哈登(1个赛季)和勒布朗-詹姆斯(2个赛季),魔术师约翰逊有两个赛季也能到达这个要求,可是一个只打了37场角逐,第二个赛季打了77场可是和场均8个篮板只差9个篮板,很惋惜啊。

让数据降到15+8+8,这份名单也只能插手一个球员而且一个赛季,本-西蒙斯的新秀赛季。

所以总结一下,即便把这个数据一降再降,我们都可以看到也只有六名球员获得了和威少类似的成就,并且此中一小我只是个新秀,他的职业生活生计不外方才最先,所以说根基20+8+8都是篮球活动中很是难做到的工作,任何一个能到达这个数据(乃至接近)都是一代天才。

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[–][ATL] Paul MillsapJfklikeskfc 92 points 15 hours ago

Russ is a top 5-7 PG ever change my mind

老鹰球迷:我感觉他就是史上5-7摆布的控卫吧。

[–]Chewie_Defense 42 points 13 hours ago

Debatable. He's probably top 10 already. Definitely not top 5 though.

Magic. Oscar. IT. Nash. CP3. Steph. Kidd. Payton. Iverson.

Just to name a few that immediately come to mind before Russ.

我感觉有待争议,他应当能进前十,可是必定不是前五。

魔术师、年夜O、以赛亚-托马斯、纳什、保罗、基德、库里、佩顿、艾弗森

这些人应当都能排在威少之前把。

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